Coding and registering new battery
11-12-2011, 01:09 AM
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I know how IBS reset in INPA works, no need to upload pics.
With the battery replacement you're asumed to put back in the same type of battery, and reseting IBS only cleares the charge and discharge cyclus.
When a other type of battery (from 90 AmpH to a 110 AmpH) it will not get fully charged, because the IBS is set to only charge with 90 AmpH.
And thats why people are having "High battery drain" faults, even if a new battery is in place.
With the battery replacement you're asumed to put back in the same type of battery, and reseting IBS only cleares the charge and discharge cyclus.
When a other type of battery (from 90 AmpH to a 110 AmpH) it will not get fully charged, because the IBS is set to only charge with 90 AmpH.
And thats why people are having "High battery drain" faults, even if a new battery is in place.
04-01-2012, 02:36 PM
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I have replaced my 90Ah AGM battery with new BOSCH S5 110Ah and tried to register it:
- in NCS Expert I changed the value KLASSE_BATTERIE in CAS module to 110Ah (if I read the module again the new value is set and correct)
- in Toolset 32 I opened MSD80 and executed jub steuern_batterietausch_registri and the status was OK (I also tried with MSV70 and MSV80)
But when I check the PM Field 2 in INPA there is still 91Ah as it was before. I also tried B TAUSCH in INPA and also repeated the process.
I dont know why it is 91Ah when it was 90Ah battery installed, but shouldnt I see 110Ah now?
I have E61 2006. Is the procedure different? Or where could be the problem?
Thank you for your suggestions!
- in NCS Expert I changed the value KLASSE_BATTERIE in CAS module to 110Ah (if I read the module again the new value is set and correct)
- in Toolset 32 I opened MSD80 and executed jub steuern_batterietausch_registri and the status was OK (I also tried with MSV70 and MSV80)
But when I check the PM Field 2 in INPA there is still 91Ah as it was before. I also tried B TAUSCH in INPA and also repeated the process.
I dont know why it is 91Ah when it was 90Ah battery installed, but shouldnt I see 110Ah now?
I have E61 2006. Is the procedure different? Or where could be the problem?
Thank you for your suggestions!
I have found pdf document how to change VO (CAS). He is going through 20 points of how to change VO
At the end of that document guy has put a note:
Only the CAS hs the new Vehicle Order (VO), the 2nd control unit which stores the Vehicle Order must now be coded with the new VO, select F1 (Change ECU) and repeat process.
What does this mean ?
I coded my new battery to my car using NCS Expert-->
Load Profile-->
Expert mode-->
F2(chasis)-->
Selected E60 (as this is my car)-->
F6(back)-->
F1 VIN/ZCS/FA-->
F2 (Enter FA) -->
Selected E60 (as this is my car)-->
Confirmed VIN-->
Removed -B080 from popping out table (pressed Delete on -B080)(Old battery was 80AmH)-->
Added new value of -B090 as my new battery is 90AmH) acid one-->
F6(Back)-->
F4 (Process ECU)-->
Selected CAS-->
F2 (Change Job)-->
Selected FA_Write-->
F3 (Eecute Job)-->
and finish.
According to that document mentioned above
"Only the CAS hs the new Vehicle Order (VO), the 2nd control unit which stores the Vehicle Order must now be coded with the new VO, select F1 (Change ECU) and repeat process"
What do I have to do then, if I have to ?
Of course I need to register new battery in INPA, but that is easy.
Inpa 5.00
Shift + F7 --> DDE 6.0 for M47 new 2nd--> etc..,,, and the Register new battery. I have got popping out OK window. Job done
04-05-2012, 06:25 PM
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I'm new to the forum and just recently purchased an '04 545i. I replaced the battery and I'm wondering why or if I need to have it coded and registered, what does this do? Any help is greatly appreciated!
10-16-2012, 06:07 AM
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Of course you do, this whole thread explains why and how (within reason).
11-05-2012, 07:27 AM
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There is a INPA function to register battery, I will post the INPA screen when I am home.
From memory....
Select the right module for your vehicle engine, MSD80 MVS70, etc.
Select F5 status in analog / digital
Select F5 again IBS Power Management
Select F5 register battery replacement
Possibly even F6 to reset the charge histograms
From memory....
Select the right module for your vehicle engine, MSD80 MVS70, etc.
Select F5 status in analog / digital
Select F5 again IBS Power Management
Select F5 register battery replacement
Possibly even F6 to reset the charge histograms
BTW I used AutoCraft Gold AGM Battery (H8-AGM) to switch from regular white BMW battery on my 550i, used DIY cross-posted in this thread (NCSExpert + Tool32), so far so good no issues.
I did use ME9N62 instead of MSD80, hopefully I did the right thing :-)
I used this link to get $35 off everything @Advance Auto Parts:
http://advanceautoparts.tellapal.com/a/clk/3sMKbP
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01-27-2013, 03:40 AM
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New to coding but have been reading thread on battery registration. I installed an Exide 49-60 about 3.5 years ago in my '04 545 but did not have the battery registered at that time. A couple of questions:
1. While I know the CCA and CA of my battery from the documented specs online (850/1000), I cannot find the capacity (Ah) to know if I need to adjust for charging parameters. I haven't pulled out the battery to see if it is labeled on the battery itself but anyone know what the capacity is for this battery (as I know this is a fairly common replacement battery for the E60s)?
2. Now 3.5 years later, does it makes sense to register the battery at this point? If it is a different capacity than the original - maybe so? Would it cause problems if the E60 thinks it's a new battery when in reality not?
I have not experienced any apparent issues to date although have had an ongoing error message around Passenger Restraint System and a number of codes out of INPA that were likely kicked when I originally swapped out the battery. I plan on erasing those codes to see what continues to flare up.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
1. While I know the CCA and CA of my battery from the documented specs online (850/1000), I cannot find the capacity (Ah) to know if I need to adjust for charging parameters. I haven't pulled out the battery to see if it is labeled on the battery itself but anyone know what the capacity is for this battery (as I know this is a fairly common replacement battery for the E60s)?
2. Now 3.5 years later, does it makes sense to register the battery at this point? If it is a different capacity than the original - maybe so? Would it cause problems if the E60 thinks it's a new battery when in reality not?
I have not experienced any apparent issues to date although have had an ongoing error message around Passenger Restraint System and a number of codes out of INPA that were likely kicked when I originally swapped out the battery. I plan on erasing those codes to see what continues to flare up.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
03-16-2013, 06:08 AM
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Hey guys.
I'm helping a friend out with a batterychange in his 535d 2006 E60. He's looking to buy the exact same battery as in the car right now!
Do i really have to add/delete VO to code the new battery? Or is it all good to just code it in tool32? Then reset IBS in INPA afterwards.
Thank you for reply!
I'm helping a friend out with a batterychange in his 535d 2006 E60. He's looking to buy the exact same battery as in the car right now!
Do i really have to add/delete VO to code the new battery? Or is it all good to just code it in tool32? Then reset IBS in INPA afterwards.
Thank you for reply!
03-17-2013, 02:13 AM
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What is the code for VO if retrofitting from 90Ah ti 110Ah? I'm talking oem.
2006 e60.
Can i just modify VO then code cas.
Confirm replacement in inpa??
2006 e60.
Can i just modify VO then code cas.
Confirm replacement in inpa??
03-18-2013, 05:30 PM
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When finished process the vehicle.
When you are finished you can load INPA and register it.