Changing from Pre Lci Lights to Lci Lights
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hi guys i got my self a set of Lci rear lights and a Lm2 i have also ordered the retro fit wires from bmw
i had a few questions i know i need to wire the two wires from the retro fit wires back to the Lm2 what do these two wires as in what is there exact function
also would fitting the Lm2 into my car give me any new codes or faults?
i know i need to code the new lm2 to the car, i think the Lm2 is from a Lci model without xenons and i dont have factory xenons i have aftermarket H7R xenons i take it that wont cause any issues?
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i had a few questions i know i need to wire the two wires from the retro fit wires back to the Lm2 what do these two wires as in what is there exact function
also would fitting the Lm2 into my car give me any new codes or faults?
i know i need to code the new lm2 to the car, i think the Lm2 is from a Lci model without xenons and i dont have factory xenons i have aftermarket H7R xenons i take it that wont cause any issues?
thanks
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What would need to be coded for the tails will they not work once lm2 is coded and all wires are plugged in?
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Thanks for taking your time with the reply I really appreciate it.
I test fitted the lights last night just to see how they looked and worked with the lm1 they worked very similar to this ricky effect with no rear brake bulbs coming on behind the bars the bars went brighter when you press the brake so did the round fog light bulb
The indicators worked fine and so did the rear fog light
Only thing that didn't come on was the reverse lights
Do I need to change vin on lm2 and flash or does just coding with expert profile do the job
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I test fitted the lights last night just to see how they looked and worked with the lm1 they worked very similar to this ricky effect with no rear brake bulbs coming on behind the bars the bars went brighter when you press the brake so did the round fog light bulb
The indicators worked fine and so did the rear fog light
Only thing that didn't come on was the reverse lights
Do I need to change vin on lm2 and flash or does just coding with expert profile do the job
Thanks
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Any idea what those two wires do that have to go to the lm2? From the retro fit wiring?
Can I not use sone sort of resistors if that's what there job is in lm2
Can I not use sone sort of resistors if that's what there job is in lm2
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You need to install the LM2 to make the tail lights work correctly.
Pre-LCI tail lights have:
1- Turn light
2- Reverse light
3- Fog Light that doubles as position light
4- 1 brake light that doubles as position light
5- 1 brake light that doubles ad position light
LCI Tail Lights have
1- Turn signal
2- Reverse
3- Fog light that doubles as position light
4- 1 Brake light
5- 1 Brake light
6- Led rods as dedicated position lights
That is why you need the two extra wires, LCI tail lights have the same functions, but with one more light, if you don't wire them, you will miss one function on each light. It is possible to make them work with LM2 without the extra wires, sacrifying one of the brake lights to make the rods light, but it requires hacking the retrofit kit adapters and probably some coding hacking also.
When you do FA_WRITE on the LM2 it will get your current VIN and vehicle order (VO), the same applies to CAS.
Install LM2, load NCSexpert, open Expertprofile (must be the original untouched expertprofile) and just load VIN/FA/ETC from CAS, edit it to add +MUEB, then FA_WRITE to CAS and LMA, and then SG_CODIEREN to LMA.
Try your LCI tail lights without the new wires installed to see which function is missing.
REMEMBER: To make BACKUPS of everything before doing anything.
Pre-LCI tail lights have:
1- Turn light
2- Reverse light
3- Fog Light that doubles as position light
4- 1 brake light that doubles as position light
5- 1 brake light that doubles ad position light
LCI Tail Lights have
1- Turn signal
2- Reverse
3- Fog light that doubles as position light
4- 1 Brake light
5- 1 Brake light
6- Led rods as dedicated position lights
That is why you need the two extra wires, LCI tail lights have the same functions, but with one more light, if you don't wire them, you will miss one function on each light. It is possible to make them work with LM2 without the extra wires, sacrifying one of the brake lights to make the rods light, but it requires hacking the retrofit kit adapters and probably some coding hacking also.
When you do FA_WRITE on the LM2 it will get your current VIN and vehicle order (VO), the same applies to CAS.
Install LM2, load NCSexpert, open Expertprofile (must be the original untouched expertprofile) and just load VIN/FA/ETC from CAS, edit it to add +MUEB, then FA_WRITE to CAS and LMA, and then SG_CODIEREN to LMA.
Try your LCI tail lights without the new wires installed to see which function is missing.
REMEMBER: To make BACKUPS of everything before doing anything.
thanks RoberMC once i get a chance il go ahead with fitting the LM2 and see what errors get
i have made a back up already of the LM trace
il try the lights with out the wires and see what difference it makes
if they are needed to make it work il go ahead and fit them
how hard is it to make these work like the ricky effect i guess i wont have any strobing issues as i have a LM2 and if i change the wires to make it work like the ricky effect
its weird how the LM1 does this effect without any modifications could it be achieved by adding the brake light wire to the rods wire?
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Im looking in2 doin this but it looks long lol so i need the lci rear lights miranda cables nd im not sure weather mine is lm1 or lm2(07 plate 520d) thanks in advanve 4 any replys
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If you have LM2, then there is no need for Bruce Miranda cables, if you have LM1, then the easiest way is to use Bruce's cables, but they are expensive compared to a new LM2 (275€ vs about 150€ an used LM2), and with LM2 you get extra features like Welcome Lights, Angel eyes as Day Running Lights, and other stuff
If yo go Bruce's cables route i have one set spare of v6 i could sell at discounted price, just plug and play. PM me if you are interested.
I understand you have a 2007 520d, so you have LM2 for sure. LM2 was installed from factory in cars manufactured from 2006-06, but only from 2007-03 they started to come with LCI lights.
Once you have the LCI tail lights working, achieving Ricky's effect is easy, you can achieve it just with coding (harder but cleaner), or just disconnecting the 2 wires that supply current to the two brake bulbs, and connecting them to the fog light. i don't remember the number of the pins and they are different on each light. The rods are always at full brightness when using LM2, so no need to mod anything on them.
I won't recommend having ricky's effect, it is illegal in a lot of countries, and it defeats the purpose of having an OEM LCI tail lights, people would think you have installed a cheap third party tail lights or that you are using a cheap adapter cable which cannot handle all the functions properly.
What i did was code them so when braking only the outher brake light turns on, instead of the two at the same time as it was by default. This way my led rods are still visible while braking, and still preserves OEM look.
But hey, it is your car and it is your choice.
If yo go Bruce's cables route i have one set spare of v6 i could sell at discounted price, just plug and play. PM me if you are interested.
I understand you have a 2007 520d, so you have LM2 for sure. LM2 was installed from factory in cars manufactured from 2006-06, but only from 2007-03 they started to come with LCI lights.
Once you have the LCI tail lights working, achieving Ricky's effect is easy, you can achieve it just with coding (harder but cleaner), or just disconnecting the 2 wires that supply current to the two brake bulbs, and connecting them to the fog light. i don't remember the number of the pins and they are different on each light. The rods are always at full brightness when using LM2, so no need to mod anything on them.
I won't recommend having ricky's effect, it is illegal in a lot of countries, and it defeats the purpose of having an OEM LCI tail lights, people would think you have installed a cheap third party tail lights or that you are using a cheap adapter cable which cannot handle all the functions properly.
What i did was code them so when braking only the outher brake light turns on, instead of the two at the same time as it was by default. This way my led rods are still visible while braking, and still preserves OEM look.
But hey, it is your car and it is your choice.
are you still using the fog light as brake or not by coding?
do you have a pic of how you tail light looks when you are braking?
i think there are three bulbs right for the brake which one is lighting up on yours
thanks
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