PS Detailed 2005 Black Lexus LS430 30 man-hours
04-14-2010 | 07:25 PM
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Excellent work. 
What is the model # of your Festool. What's different about the Festool compared to a standard random orbital? What are the surbuf pads like to work with?
It reads like you used the Kevin Brown method of polishing. Could you explain a bit how to do that?
Thanks ... always great to see some new tools and techniques.
What is the model # of your Festool. What's different about the Festool compared to a standard random orbital? What are the surbuf pads like to work with?
It reads like you used the Kevin Brown method of polishing. Could you explain a bit how to do that?
Thanks ... always great to see some new tools and techniques.
04-15-2010 | 04:45 PM
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Thanks guys!
Thank you tachyon!
Festool FEQ 150
Out all of the $150 R/Os I have used the G110v2 has the least amount of vibration, it was my favorite R/O till I got the festool. It has a smaller throw then your $150 R/Os G110v2 and XPPC. So it has approx half the vibration of the G110v2. You would think that a smaller throw would have less correction ability. Not an issue with the festool at all. The festool is very refined.
Kevin Brown also came up with using the surbuf pads with M105. As you can see from the level of defects on this car, the surbuf pad will cut just as well as a rotary with any R/O.
Here is my explanation of the KBM with the surbuf pads:
The original KBM with orange flat LC pad:
Excellent work.
What is the model # of your Festool. What's different about the Festool compared to a standard random orbital? What are the surbuf pads like to work with?
It reads like you used the Kevin Brown method of polishing. Could you explain a bit how to do that?
Thanks ... always great to see some new tools and techniques.
What is the model # of your Festool. What's different about the Festool compared to a standard random orbital? What are the surbuf pads like to work with?
It reads like you used the Kevin Brown method of polishing. Could you explain a bit how to do that?
Thanks ... always great to see some new tools and techniques.
Festool FEQ 150
Out all of the $150 R/Os I have used the G110v2 has the least amount of vibration, it was my favorite R/O till I got the festool. It has a smaller throw then your $150 R/Os G110v2 and XPPC. So it has approx half the vibration of the G110v2. You would think that a smaller throw would have less correction ability. Not an issue with the festool at all. The festool is very refined.
Kevin Brown also came up with using the surbuf pads with M105. As you can see from the level of defects on this car, the surbuf pad will cut just as well as a rotary with any R/O.
Here is my explanation of the KBM with the surbuf pads:
KBM via Surbuf pad:
This process can be messy.
7" surbuf pad.
6" BP
PC or XPPC
Straight IPA
1. Do not prime the surbuf pad.
2. Apply 4 "larger then pea sized" dots of M105 to the pad.
3. Work the polish into an 12x12" area without turning on your PC.
4. Spritz the surface with water.
5. As in step 3, again work the polish around without turning on your PC, you are looking for a milky consistency.
6. Turn on PC and work the polish till it appears to dry.
7. Spritz more water onto the suface and continue to polish. What this does is bring the polish out of the pad and back to the surface.
8. I have found that you will need IPA sprayed onto your MF to remove the M105 from the surface.
9. Inspect and repeat if needed.
Notes:
If you find that one time is not enough to remove defects, you can always repeat #7 and keep on polishing.
After 2-3 sections, you will need to clean the pad by brushing off the pad and blowing out the excess polish with compressed air. After the pad becomes overly saturated w/ polish clean with warn water and some APC. Spin to dry. The pad does not have to be totally dry to use it again.
I have removed severe defects and 2000 grit wetsanding marks with this method.
Depedning on the hardness of the clear, you "might" be able to go right to M205 with a gray finishing pad via the KBM. Sometimes a middle step with M205/orange pad via KBM is required.
IMO this method will level paint as good as a rotary.
This process can be messy.
7" surbuf pad.
6" BP
PC or XPPC
Straight IPA
1. Do not prime the surbuf pad.
2. Apply 4 "larger then pea sized" dots of M105 to the pad.
3. Work the polish into an 12x12" area without turning on your PC.
4. Spritz the surface with water.
5. As in step 3, again work the polish around without turning on your PC, you are looking for a milky consistency.
6. Turn on PC and work the polish till it appears to dry.
7. Spritz more water onto the suface and continue to polish. What this does is bring the polish out of the pad and back to the surface.
8. I have found that you will need IPA sprayed onto your MF to remove the M105 from the surface.
9. Inspect and repeat if needed.
Notes:
If you find that one time is not enough to remove defects, you can always repeat #7 and keep on polishing.
After 2-3 sections, you will need to clean the pad by brushing off the pad and blowing out the excess polish with compressed air. After the pad becomes overly saturated w/ polish clean with warn water and some APC. Spin to dry. The pad does not have to be totally dry to use it again.
I have removed severe defects and 2000 grit wetsanding marks with this method.
Depedning on the hardness of the clear, you "might" be able to go right to M205 with a gray finishing pad via the KBM. Sometimes a middle step with M205/orange pad via KBM is required.
IMO this method will level paint as good as a rotary.
The following is my short explaination of the KBM:
Prime the entire face of the clean/dry flat orange pad, ensure you have polish in every pore.
Apply 3-4 dots of M105 to the pad.
Apply enough pressure at speed 6 so that the pad is still spinning, but slowly. Ensure that the pad is spinning and not stopped.
Wipe the M105 from the surface with a MF and inspect the area. If the M105 become difficult to remove from the surface wipe it away with straight IPA.
After each use wipe the pad across a MF to clean the pad. Then apply 4 more dots of polish and repeat.
After a few uses brush the pad clean and blow compressed air to clean out the dust. You will still see residual polish on the pad.
After so many uses the pad will loose its cut as its just clogged with too much polish and clear from the surface.
Clean the pad by spraying APC 1:4 onto the pad and wash it w/ warm water in the sink. Make sure you get all the soap and polish rinsed out. Spin the pad out into a bucket with your PC or a rotary if you have one. Let the pad air dry fully by placing it in from of a fan.
Of course you will need more then a few pads to complete this process.
Prime a fresh pad and start again.
If you have any 4" orange pads and the proper backing plate, use the above method to spot polish those deeper scratches.
Follow with M205 and a white or gray flat pad using the same process as above, you will not have to work the areas as long. If you don't have M205 use a finish polish with a white pad.
Prime the entire face of the clean/dry flat orange pad, ensure you have polish in every pore.
Apply 3-4 dots of M105 to the pad.
Apply enough pressure at speed 6 so that the pad is still spinning, but slowly. Ensure that the pad is spinning and not stopped.
Wipe the M105 from the surface with a MF and inspect the area. If the M105 become difficult to remove from the surface wipe it away with straight IPA.
After each use wipe the pad across a MF to clean the pad. Then apply 4 more dots of polish and repeat.
After a few uses brush the pad clean and blow compressed air to clean out the dust. You will still see residual polish on the pad.
After so many uses the pad will loose its cut as its just clogged with too much polish and clear from the surface.
Clean the pad by spraying APC 1:4 onto the pad and wash it w/ warm water in the sink. Make sure you get all the soap and polish rinsed out. Spin the pad out into a bucket with your PC or a rotary if you have one. Let the pad air dry fully by placing it in from of a fan.
Of course you will need more then a few pads to complete this process.
Prime a fresh pad and start again.
If you have any 4" orange pads and the proper backing plate, use the above method to spot polish those deeper scratches.
Follow with M205 and a white or gray flat pad using the same process as above, you will not have to work the areas as long. If you don't have M205 use a finish polish with a white pad.
04-19-2010 | 08:06 PM
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My Ride: '05 545 Jet Black, Miro 111's, Painted Calipers, Slotted and Drilled Rotors, Ultimate Interior LED Kit, ACS Rear Spoilers (reps), HID 7k Fogs, Black Roundels and Badges, 20% Tint, Mtech V2 Angel Eyes, Ksport Coilovers, M5 Bumpers and Side Skits, ACS Front Lip (rep), and probably more on the way as you read this...
i wish you lived close to me, because that just looks awesome! great job
04-23-2010 | 02:30 PM
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04-24-2010 | 08:27 AM
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My Ride: 2007 530i. Purchased 6/28/07. Titanium Silver Metallic, Black Dakota Leather, Dark Poplar Trim, Steptronic, Premium Package, Cold Weather Package, Bluetooth, Adaptive Control Xenons. 10/30/07 Added OEM 124s with 245/40/18 & 275/35/18 Michelin Pilot Sport A/S tires. Installed red Cal Covers� from BavAuto. 11/21/07 Added OEM all-weather floor mats (for winter, carpet in summer) and coat rack. 6/26/08 installed M5-style rear spoiler. 6/30/08 put on red reflectors. 8/22/08 Euro turn signal stickers applied. 3/20/09 Installed Shadowline Trim. 3/27/09 Added Matte Black Kidney Grilles from Trinity. 4/03/09 Installed Bimmian Shadow Matte Black 530i Badges. 4/04/09 Installed LED license plate lights from Trinity. 5/01/09 Installed Brabus Interior LED Kit and White Angel Eyes. 5/02/09 Put in Brabus 6K Fogs. 5/14/09 Removed charcoal filter. 5/15/09 Installed light smoke LED side marker lamps from Trinity. 5/21/09 Sprint Booster. 6/12/09 Painted exhaust tips flat black. 6/13/09 Pulled red Cal Covers and painted calipers low gloss black. 6/27/09 RPI Ram Air Scoop from Trinity. 8/15/09 Installed Brabus's silver invisibulbs front and rear. 9/24/09 Installed R-Dash license plate LEDs from Brabaus (John).
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