2 New Swissvax Products/ Glacier and Blau Weiss
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Swissvax Official Press Release:
Each time we bring out a marque specific wax we have to expect positive and critical reactions. That's normal and understandable. The main question will always be: Is it just a marketing hype or is there really a benefit in choosing these waxes? The question arrised 9 years ago when we launched "Zuffenhausen" for modern Porsche cars (meanwhile this wax has become a benchmark for treatments on Porsche paints and nobody questions its credentials anymore) or "Nitro" for nitrocellulose paints (where German museum curator Gundula Tutt's dissertation on nitrocellulase paints proved that Swissvax "Nitro" did not swell the paints as other waxes and polishes).
Contrary to other manufacturers, Swissvax's marque specific waxes do not cost significantly more than their serial counterparts (Zuffenhausen CHF 149 versus Saphir CHF 146, a difference of less than ?2 ... due to smaller label printing badges etc.). An indication Swissvax has no intentions to "milk" customers.
Our serial waxes ONYX (standard wax with 30% Carnauba by vol.), SAPHIR and SHIELD (Premium waxes with 40% Carnauba by vol.) have to be effective on all automotive paints; they must perform on Japanese paint systems as good as on modern "nano paints" (Ceramicoat by Mercedes-Benz), high definition metallics and micatallics (VW Golf V, Audi A6 etc.) or old thermo acrylics used in the 60's and 70's etc. In other words they are always a compromise as they must do the splits for all paint systems.
A marque specific wax has only to match the needs of the paint system(s) this marque uses. This enables us to "tune" the wax formulation to these paints only. The advantage will be a highly improved longevity and sometimes also a solution for typical paint problems of this marque - the shine between serial and marque specific waxes, however, are virtually the same.
Blau Weiss: These waxes last longer on BMW cars than our serial Saphir wax (imporoved longevity). Furthermore, "cures" the highly scratch sensitive finish of X3's new paints (black, black metallic etc. on X3) in the showroom (solution for typical paint problems).
Glacier: These waxes are for white cars (and for white cars only!). They feature a highly dirt-repellent formulation and fight those ugly black runs after a rain on the paint. And most importantly, those black runs do not eat into the paint anymore. Optical brighteners (similar as in Quick Finish) help to make a white look real shiny.
By the way, for us it is not so much of importance WHO supplies the paint system, it is much more important HOW it was applied. (e.g. PPG paint used on Aston Martin DB7's out of Blocksum production was horribly scratch sensitive, PPG paint used on Lamborghini or Spyker is not ...).
Each time we bring out a marque specific wax we have to expect positive and critical reactions. That's normal and understandable. The main question will always be: Is it just a marketing hype or is there really a benefit in choosing these waxes? The question arrised 9 years ago when we launched "Zuffenhausen" for modern Porsche cars (meanwhile this wax has become a benchmark for treatments on Porsche paints and nobody questions its credentials anymore) or "Nitro" for nitrocellulose paints (where German museum curator Gundula Tutt's dissertation on nitrocellulase paints proved that Swissvax "Nitro" did not swell the paints as other waxes and polishes).
Contrary to other manufacturers, Swissvax's marque specific waxes do not cost significantly more than their serial counterparts (Zuffenhausen CHF 149 versus Saphir CHF 146, a difference of less than ?2 ... due to smaller label printing badges etc.). An indication Swissvax has no intentions to "milk" customers.
Our serial waxes ONYX (standard wax with 30% Carnauba by vol.), SAPHIR and SHIELD (Premium waxes with 40% Carnauba by vol.) have to be effective on all automotive paints; they must perform on Japanese paint systems as good as on modern "nano paints" (Ceramicoat by Mercedes-Benz), high definition metallics and micatallics (VW Golf V, Audi A6 etc.) or old thermo acrylics used in the 60's and 70's etc. In other words they are always a compromise as they must do the splits for all paint systems.
A marque specific wax has only to match the needs of the paint system(s) this marque uses. This enables us to "tune" the wax formulation to these paints only. The advantage will be a highly improved longevity and sometimes also a solution for typical paint problems of this marque - the shine between serial and marque specific waxes, however, are virtually the same.
Blau Weiss: These waxes last longer on BMW cars than our serial Saphir wax (imporoved longevity). Furthermore, "cures" the highly scratch sensitive finish of X3's new paints (black, black metallic etc. on X3) in the showroom (solution for typical paint problems).
Glacier: These waxes are for white cars (and for white cars only!). They feature a highly dirt-repellent formulation and fight those ugly black runs after a rain on the paint. And most importantly, those black runs do not eat into the paint anymore. Optical brighteners (similar as in Quick Finish) help to make a white look real shiny.
By the way, for us it is not so much of importance WHO supplies the paint system, it is much more important HOW it was applied. (e.g. PPG paint used on Aston Martin DB7's out of Blocksum production was horribly scratch sensitive, PPG paint used on Lamborghini or Spyker is not ...).
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Does these two compared with swissvax concorso?
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Originally Posted by C's Bimmer' post='797308' date='Feb 19 2009, 09:56 PM
Phil,
How much for each of these?
How much for each of these?
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update you can now order we will ship them out in 48 hours or less.
guys/gals the two waxes will be at our warehouse in less than 48 hours.
so please order up now.
these won't be in stock for very long.
click here to order:
Swissvax Blau Weiss
Swissvax Glacier
Make sure you take a look at all the additional goodies that you can add on and save $$.
guys/gals the two waxes will be at our warehouse in less than 48 hours.
so please order up now.
these won't be in stock for very long.
click here to order:
Swissvax Blau Weiss
Swissvax Glacier
Make sure you take a look at all the additional goodies that you can add on and save $$.
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Originally Posted by pyiu' post='813256' date='Mar 11 2009, 12:27 AM
update you can now order we will ship them out in 48 hours or less.
guys/gals the two waxes will be at our warehouse in less than 48 hours.
so please order up now.
these won't be in stock for very long.
click here to order:
Swissvax Blau Weiss
Swissvax Glacier
Make sure you take a look at all the additional goodies that you can add on and save $$.
guys/gals the two waxes will be at our warehouse in less than 48 hours.
so please order up now.
these won't be in stock for very long.
click here to order:
Swissvax Blau Weiss
Swissvax Glacier
Make sure you take a look at all the additional goodies that you can add on and save $$.
Since you have had experience with an Alpine white BMW what products would you recommend for building a starter kit. I have never done a full detail before but I am very good a DIY jobs (aka I'm very anal about details). I am going to pick up a DA buffer either a porter or Flex with lake country pads. My pain has some swirl marks and not really any rds. What products would you recommend for a sealer, polish, and wax. I would like to keep it under 150-200 for just those supplies since being new I'm sure I will just be wasting product before I get my technique down. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by NWS Alpine' post='813673' date='Mar 11 2009, 12:52 PM
Since you have had experience with an Alpine white BMW what products would you recommend for building a starter kit. I have never done a full detail before but I am very good a DIY jobs (aka I'm very anal about details). I am going to pick up a DA buffer either a porter or Flex with lake country pads. My pain has some swirl marks and not really any rds. What products would you recommend for a sealer, polish, and wax. I would like to keep it under 150-200 for just those supplies since being new I'm sure I will just be wasting product before I get my technique down. Thanks.
Just an update. I bought a Flex orbital and will be buying some supplies from your website. I noticed you guys have a good following on autopia.org
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I am in the market for trying a new wax. However, I think I might need 2 different kinds, based on the 2 colors I own.
What do you suggest for Jet Black and what do you suggest for Silverstone II, Phil?
What do you suggest for Jet Black and what do you suggest for Silverstone II, Phil?