C's Bimmer

That's great. You see, with all the modifications on my car, many dealerships wouldn't take the risk of working on my car and reporting that the malfuntion was a stock related issue, when it wasn't. When I take care of my advisors (discreetly, of course), my car might as well be stock. If you get the same treatment for a bottle of white zinfandel, you should probably thank your daddy again -- he keeps hooking you up.

Krozi

Yes I am aware of what they make. It's good money. Maybe not enough to buy everything under the sun, but the average guy would be very happy with that kind of money.

I really don't know what your problem is with me.

C's Bimmer

Yeah, it's probably best you don't. If I were in his shoes, receiving a tip from a 17 year old that drives a $70K+ car that his dad bought him, would be a little awkward. Smart move.

Krozi

I'm really sorry that a grown man finds it necessary to rip on someone not even 1/2 his age for no apparent reason.

skunkd

While donuts are nice and all I'm pretty sure they have enough in the trunks of all their new/used inventory... This is of course a dealership we're talking about, they serve one purpose, to make money (or to take yours)... the good ones will provide you with outstanding customer service but they aren't required to. That being said, I always tip cash in a card and envelope towards the holiday season. My SA is great and he honestly takes care of my car and warranties items even now that i'm no longer covered

donuts suit thanking children for doing their elementary school homework better in my eyes. You want great service cash talks end of story. I promise you they won't take it as an insult or think it is inpersonal.

C's Bimmer

Marc -

I think you should stick to the topics of discussing cars, not life as an adult, until you have a little more experience on the latter. Additionally, after reading some of your more recent posts to Gene, it's very clear why you wouldn't understand -- and I think Gene was trying to give you the hint as well.

Krozi

Dearly noted.

pukka

Wow.

In all fairness, most native Europeans don't understand the "value" of a cash tip.



But as how its perceived by the receiver - let me tell you this experience:

When I moved to Germany, I spent about 3 weeks in a hotel until I found a place to live. My first morning, I ate breakfast at a buffet in the hotel dining room. I asked the waiter for a coke w/glass of ice to drink instead of coffee or tea. Anyone who has every been to Germany knows that soda w/breakfast is not the norm and ice cubes in a drink just doesn't happen unless you are in a location that caters to westerners. The waiter was very polite and got what I asked - he even tried his best to speak english. When I got up to leave I thanked him and gave him a 2 Euro tip (not alot in my opinion)
The next morning when I went to eat breakfast, I passed by the same waiter as I left my table to go to the breakfast bar. When I got back there was a bottle of coke, a glass of ice, and a english newspaper already at my table and I didn't ask for any of it.


A few weeks later when I attended a "head start" class to learn more about German culture, the instructor told my class that "excessive" cash tipping was considered inappropriate. Even 2 Euro's was considered excessive. Many people, including myself, disagreed to the point that we felt that Germans would just have to deal with our "inappropriate" behavior whenever it occurs and just move on.


During my time in Europe I've been in many other situations where a cash tip was received with a TON of gratitude and return favors. So anyone who thinks its still inappropriate is entitled to their opinion, but they are missing out - or as some members would say, "They just don't get it.".