The latest in a series
03-25-2007, 07:30 PM
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My Ride: 2005 545i step, nav, sport, 166 wheels, premium sound, don't need nothin' else.
The latest installment in my BMW tale of woe:
There is yet another serious malfunction in my 545 that began today. At about 4:00pm, after making a short stop (with the engine fully warmed up) of about 15 minutes, I restarted the vehicle and heard a very loud grating (grinding?) noise in the engine compartment. Additionally, the engine was idling very roughly with the tach needle bouncing up and down. The service engine soon? light was alight on the dash and an Engine Malfunction warning appeared on the I-drive screen. I immediately shut the engine off and let it sit for a moment. I restarted the engine and turned off the air conditioner to see if that made any difference. The idle was still rough but the noise was gone. After revving the engine a few times the idle returned to normal and the warning lights disappeared.
Later in the day, (about 5pm) I started the car again and the idle was again very rough. This time an increased emissions? message appeared on the I-Drive and again the service engine light on the dash. This evening, after another restart, both malfunction warnings have reappeared on the screen and the service engine light remains lit continuously. The car seems to operate normally once underway and the problem seems to be limited to start ups.
I am very hesitant to drive the car any further and risk potential damage to the engine.
The engine was completely replaced in November of 2006 and the software was updated to 24.xx just this past week (I await the magic Progman 25!). This car has been in for service at least ten times over the past two years, for various reasons (noisy tires, noisy engine, noisy door seals, noisy steering column, tranny slam, window anti trap malfunction, seat heater, slow I-drive response after start, cold idle fluctuation, CD changer, etc, etc) for a total of over 45 days. The dealer has been very accommodating, but since this car is a replacement for a Trade Assist on my previous, problem plagued 2004 530, and as there is less than a year left on the lease (Dec. 07), BMW 's position is that they will continue to fix the car under warranty (gee, thanks), or will take me out of the lease, and refund the unused portion of my down payment which right now amounts to less than $1000. Ever been between a rock and hard place? This is what it feels like. BMW seems to have no regard for the fact that the vehicle has been out of service for nearly two months. In other words, I get to make twelve lease payments, drive the car for eleven months and they get to work on it the twelfth month, leaving me with a loaner which is usually far less desirable that my beautiful black 545 sport.
This is not to say I don't love the car. I do. I would surely buy another if I could be reasonably assured it would be at least a little more reliable. There is a running joke among my friends, family, and business associates as to what kind of BMW or Mini loaner I will show up in next. They just don't get it, how much enjoyment one can get from a great car that is running right. I don't beat on my Bimmer, taking good care as is it my daily driver. The guys at the service dept. often comment on how nice the car looks when it comes in for service, with the 166 wheels and all. They get plenty of chances to see it, too! I guess you guys get the picture by now. Love the car, great service, lousy build quality and reliability.
Maybe I just need a pep talk. Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is yet another serious malfunction in my 545 that began today. At about 4:00pm, after making a short stop (with the engine fully warmed up) of about 15 minutes, I restarted the vehicle and heard a very loud grating (grinding?) noise in the engine compartment. Additionally, the engine was idling very roughly with the tach needle bouncing up and down. The service engine soon? light was alight on the dash and an Engine Malfunction warning appeared on the I-drive screen. I immediately shut the engine off and let it sit for a moment. I restarted the engine and turned off the air conditioner to see if that made any difference. The idle was still rough but the noise was gone. After revving the engine a few times the idle returned to normal and the warning lights disappeared.
Later in the day, (about 5pm) I started the car again and the idle was again very rough. This time an increased emissions? message appeared on the I-Drive and again the service engine light on the dash. This evening, after another restart, both malfunction warnings have reappeared on the screen and the service engine light remains lit continuously. The car seems to operate normally once underway and the problem seems to be limited to start ups.
I am very hesitant to drive the car any further and risk potential damage to the engine.
The engine was completely replaced in November of 2006 and the software was updated to 24.xx just this past week (I await the magic Progman 25!). This car has been in for service at least ten times over the past two years, for various reasons (noisy tires, noisy engine, noisy door seals, noisy steering column, tranny slam, window anti trap malfunction, seat heater, slow I-drive response after start, cold idle fluctuation, CD changer, etc, etc) for a total of over 45 days. The dealer has been very accommodating, but since this car is a replacement for a Trade Assist on my previous, problem plagued 2004 530, and as there is less than a year left on the lease (Dec. 07), BMW 's position is that they will continue to fix the car under warranty (gee, thanks), or will take me out of the lease, and refund the unused portion of my down payment which right now amounts to less than $1000. Ever been between a rock and hard place? This is what it feels like. BMW seems to have no regard for the fact that the vehicle has been out of service for nearly two months. In other words, I get to make twelve lease payments, drive the car for eleven months and they get to work on it the twelfth month, leaving me with a loaner which is usually far less desirable that my beautiful black 545 sport.
This is not to say I don't love the car. I do. I would surely buy another if I could be reasonably assured it would be at least a little more reliable. There is a running joke among my friends, family, and business associates as to what kind of BMW or Mini loaner I will show up in next. They just don't get it, how much enjoyment one can get from a great car that is running right. I don't beat on my Bimmer, taking good care as is it my daily driver. The guys at the service dept. often comment on how nice the car looks when it comes in for service, with the 166 wheels and all. They get plenty of chances to see it, too! I guess you guys get the picture by now. Love the car, great service, lousy build quality and reliability.
Maybe I just need a pep talk. Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
03-25-2007, 08:07 PM
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My Ride: 2005 545i step, nav, sport, 166 wheels, premium sound, don't need nothin' else.
Originally Posted by E60M5E60' post='406931' date='Mar 25 2007, 10:58 PM
sounds like a vanos problem.
03-25-2007, 11:39 PM
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My Ride: BMW 545iA Black Sapphire
Model Year: 2005
Engine: 545i
Sorry to hear all this Bill !
So is the car in the shop again ?
you know it could be something trivial as a faulty sensor or something, a hassle nevertheless - let us know the outcome !
Andy
So is the car in the shop again ?
you know it could be something trivial as a faulty sensor or something, a hassle nevertheless - let us know the outcome !
Andy
03-26-2007, 05:20 AM
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My Ride: 2005 545i step, nav, sport, 166 wheels, premium sound, don't need nothin' else.
Originally Posted by andy545' post='406997' date='Mar 26 2007, 02:39 AM
Sorry to hear all this Bill !
So is the car in the shop again ?
you know it could be something trivial as a faulty sensor or something, a hassle nevertheless - let us know the outcome !
Andy
So is the car in the shop again ?
you know it could be something trivial as a faulty sensor or something, a hassle nevertheless - let us know the outcome !
Andy
03-26-2007, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by branie555' post='406937' date='Mar 25 2007, 11:07 PM
What makes you say that?
Its a guess thought withought plugging the car to the computer to see the error codes.
In any case I wish you luck and you have a "healthy" car soon.
Please keep us posted on what the dealer says.
03-26-2007, 01:04 PM
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My Ride: 2005 545i step, nav, sport, 166 wheels, premium sound, don't need nothin' else.
Originally Posted by E60M5E60' post='407114' date='Mar 26 2007, 10:54 AM
The engine light in combination with the emissions message and the fact it happened when engine was warm which excludes the Valvetronic. I am assuming you have the N62 engine.
Its a guess thought withought plugging the car to the computer to see the error codes.
In any case I wish you luck and you have a "healthy" car soon.
Please keep us posted on what the dealer says.
Its a guess thought withought plugging the car to the computer to see the error codes.
In any case I wish you luck and you have a "healthy" car soon.
Please keep us posted on what the dealer says.
03-26-2007, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by branie555' post='407253' date='Mar 26 2007, 04:04 PM
Thanks-will do. Got a pretty nice loaner, a 2007 530 with 500 miles. Blue with tan interior. Sharp!
03-27-2007, 11:55 AM
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My Ride: 2005 545i step, nav, sport, 166 wheels, premium sound, don't need nothin' else.
Originally Posted by Thirdy' post='407377' date='Mar 26 2007, 10:34 PM
just enjoy the loaner and let them have your car for a while