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Old 03-01-2005, 05:13 AM
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I drove all the cars you did and the conclusion was that the BMW was so far ahead of the others regarding the driving experience that it didn't even seem like a fair comparison. My brother has a Lexus LS430, and it is a nice comfortable car. But the 545 is both comfortable and an incredible driving experience.

Lets face it "THERE IS NO CURE" Get the BMW!
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Originally Posted by Hormazd' date='Mar 1 2005, 01:15 AM
....That said,? I would extend your lease and wait for a 2006 550i.? .........
I would NOT!! The current BMW lease rate on the 545 is outrageouly low (.001 MF) with a 61% residual rate on a 3 yrs 12k/ yr . Seriously... you'd be foolish to pass this on... You can get a fully loaded $68k 545 for $800/month.... that'z nuting futz!!

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Welcome aboard, ih82go !


Take the BMW now.
It's the ultimate driving machine!
You won't regret it.

There are problems on every car out there in the world. And the glitches on the E60 are mostly minor. The big issues seem to be solved.
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Of course you're going to get biased opinions from this board, but here's my view. For perspective, among other cars, I've owned 4 Porsches ('99, '02 & '04 Carreras, and a '89 944), '96 525i (my company car in Amsterdam), '00 740i sport, '03 E55 AMG, and now '05 545i (with honorable mention to my high school car--a Fiat 124 spider, which infected me with the car bug!! )

I picked up my 545i 6 weeks ago. From a driving perspective, this is a terrific car. Great handling, steering, acceleration and brakes--yet still plenty comfortable and luxurious. Drives so much better than my E55 did. And so far so good--no problems. And the Logic7 stereo is the best factory system I've heard. Sure the iDrive boot up takes a bit, but to me that just means I don't hear the stereo for the first few seconds of driving--it's not like you have to wait before you can put the car in gear. Should it take that long--no. Is it that big a deal--also no.

As others pointed out, many of the issues you experienced with your 745Li can be attributed to being on the bleading edge. That's a lesson I also learned the hard way, and will not forget. There will always be issues with modern cars given how much technology they stuff into them (the Wall Street Journal had a good article on this a few weeks ago)--that's the price we pay.

Not to offend anybody, but I don't consider those other cars to be in the same league as the 5 series from a drivers perspective. If you want a cushy, gadget laden car, perhaps they're worth considering.

FWIW, I strongly recommend getting nav, if for nothing else than voice command, which makes most of the iDrive complaints a non-issue.
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I only had an engine computer recall after 2 weeks with my 04 545iM (last summer), and since then no problem. I really do love this car, and just haven't had the problems you hear about.

Remember that forums like this are the gourmet drivers, who will notice and write about the slightest nuance or failing. Most seem to be happy with the car.

I drive 5 miles in traffic to work, and trust me, you will find times to draw on the talents of this car, even in a short drive!
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I'll always have BMWs. That being said, the Acura RL is EASILY the best value in the luxury car market.
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Originally Posted by tab545' date='Mar 1 2005, 08:35 AM
I drive 5 miles in traffic to work, and trust me, you will find times to draw on the talents of this car, even in a short drive!
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Considering the things you said, I would go with a Lexus (I like the LS class best)
I got my 545 through ED last May/2004 and had no problems since.

I would never recommend a BMW to a person where driving was not priority one. So many other cars offer what you looking for, with driving as a secondary option.

Infiniti would be my second choice under your conditions.

I have experienced better Dealer service from both Lexus and Infiniti, BMW being last.

MB service has not been so great for my father inlaw
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You suffered through the worst of it. As an early adopter with one of the first E60's I actually experienced less problems than I expected - I think I have the 7 to thank for that (so thank you).

Remember this is not only a board of die-hard enthusiasts with a decidedly positive bias but also a board of nit-picky-want-total-control-of-everything-type-A-overachieving-know-it-alls who will never be satisfied with anything other than perfection. Thank god.

Life is short, have fun, get the BMW, drive the living snot out of it when you can....
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Originally Posted by Sans' date='Mar 1 2005, 02:43 PM
Remember this is not only a board of die-hard enthusiasts with a decidedly positive bias but also a board of nit-picky-want-total-control-of-everything-type-A-overachieving-know-it-alls who will never be satisfied with anything other than perfection.
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