For those that bash BMW reliability
10-14-2011, 07:36 PM
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Last year we got rid of a 3 year old Subaru Tribeca because after 45k miles it was burning oil and since the warranty ran out at 40k miles the dealer said it needed a new short block to the tune of $4800 in repairs and 12 month warranty. We replaced the Subaru with a NEW Honda Accord - the LEGEND of rock solid reliability, thinking "how can we go wrong with a Honda, right?"
Well guess what. Today we got a letter stating that our Honda was recalled, not for something silly like Toyota's sticky throttle, no that would be simple. This recall was for the FRONT SUSPENSION, apparently they didn't quite bolt it on correctly when they built the car. Isn't that great? The car that was supposed to be safe and reliable, and the one that hauls my wife and kids around. might just have the front suspension fall apart. Recall info
Now, I have had one major problem with my 530, the CCC (iDrive) unit failed and had to be replaced. However, THAT issue wasn't going to KILL me!!!! WTF Honda?!?!?! Seriously? You neglected to bolt the front suspension on properly? REALLY? :thumbsdown:
Well guess what. Today we got a letter stating that our Honda was recalled, not for something silly like Toyota's sticky throttle, no that would be simple. This recall was for the FRONT SUSPENSION, apparently they didn't quite bolt it on correctly when they built the car. Isn't that great? The car that was supposed to be safe and reliable, and the one that hauls my wife and kids around. might just have the front suspension fall apart. Recall info
Now, I have had one major problem with my 530, the CCC (iDrive) unit failed and had to be replaced. However, THAT issue wasn't going to KILL me!!!! WTF Honda?!?!?! Seriously? You neglected to bolt the front suspension on properly? REALLY? :thumbsdown:
10-14-2011, 07:40 PM
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Well, the good thing is it's going to be fixed. I am curious though, has any accidents occurred due to this negligence? I imagine that would be the important question.
10-14-2011, 07:42 PM
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Good question Simon, I don't know the answer, but manufacturers rarely do a voluntary recall unless something has happened and it's likely that the government would force a recall anyway. Just much less publicity when they do it voluntarily
10-17-2011, 05:18 AM
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First post for me but I had to chime in on this one.
You are really exaggerating the problem with the Honda. The Accords "MAY" have a problem with the torque on the axle spindle nut. The axle spindle nut is staked to the axle shaft when the nut is tightened, this prevents the axle nut from backing off. If the nut isn't torqued properly then premature hub bearing failure is possible but if this were to happen, and it wouldn't be all of a sudden, it would gradually start to make noise that becomes very obvious while driving. Over time the as the bearing gets worse the noise would get so loud that even a deaf person would realize that something is amiss. The recall states that loss of steering may occur, while this is certainly possible the chances of it happening instantly just isn't a reality.
You are really exaggerating the problem with the Honda. The Accords "MAY" have a problem with the torque on the axle spindle nut. The axle spindle nut is staked to the axle shaft when the nut is tightened, this prevents the axle nut from backing off. If the nut isn't torqued properly then premature hub bearing failure is possible but if this were to happen, and it wouldn't be all of a sudden, it would gradually start to make noise that becomes very obvious while driving. Over time the as the bearing gets worse the noise would get so loud that even a deaf person would realize that something is amiss. The recall states that loss of steering may occur, while this is certainly possible the chances of it happening instantly just isn't a reality.
10-27-2011, 05:14 AM
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So how does it make you feel that on the 5 series, and others as well, BMW has a known problem with brake booster contamination that could cause loss of brakes but has yet to come up with a remedy or send letters to the customers telling them about it? So now you have one car that may not move because the suspension may fall off of it, and another vehicle that may not stop becasue the brakes may fail....whats a person to do??
So how does it make you feel that on the 5 series, and others as well, BMW has a known problem with brake booster contamination that could cause loss of brakes but has yet to come up with a remedy or send letters to the customers telling them about it? So now you have one car that may not move because the suspension may fall off of it, and another vehicle that may not stop becasue the brakes may fail....whats a person to do??
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So how does it make you feel that on the 5 series, and others as well, BMW has a known problem with brake booster contamination that could cause loss of brakes but has yet to come up with a remedy or send letters to the customers telling them about it? So now you have one car that may not move because the suspension may fall off of it, and another vehicle that may not stop becasue the brakes may fail....whats a person to do??
So how does it make you feel that on the 5 series, and others as well, BMW has a known problem with brake booster contamination that could cause loss of brakes but has yet to come up with a remedy or send letters to the customers telling them about it? So now you have one car that may not move because the suspension may fall off of it, and another vehicle that may not stop becasue the brakes may fail....whats a person to do??
