tested the LS 460 today
12-07-2006, 05:56 PM
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I cheated on my E60 today and tested the Lexus LS460. It is a huge step up on material and design compare to LS430 but the 8 speeds is really stupid isn't it? Why would anyone need 8 speeds? Other then that, LS doesn't have manual gearbox... I still dig E60's because it's sporty + comfort + somewhat luxury. My verdict is that the LS is the closest competitor to E60 in the same class. What are your thoughts? What would you like your E60 to have which it doesn't?
12-07-2006, 06:18 PM
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I have taken a new LS 460 for a spin too. Its a really marvelous car, but a very different animal than any of the BMW cars. Trying to compare it to the E60 is like comparing apples to oranges. Two different cars, different theories, different target drivers. Both marvelous and spectacular in their own way.
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The E60 and LS460 same class? I don't think so.
I do think is a very comfy car and that car is a direct competitor of the 7 series or the S-class instead of the 5 series. In that class I don't think people would want it in a manual, but the 8 speed gear box hmm.... for a truck maybe but as long as I don't have to shift I don't really care how many gear it has as long as is more then 4.
I do think is a very comfy car and that car is a direct competitor of the 7 series or the S-class instead of the 5 series. In that class I don't think people would want it in a manual, but the 8 speed gear box hmm.... for a truck maybe but as long as I don't have to shift I don't really care how many gear it has as long as is more then 4.
12-08-2006, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by AC_S5' post='364830' date='Dec 7 2006, 11:38 PM
The E60 and LS460 same class? I don't think so.
I do think is a very comfy car and that car is a direct competitor of the 7 series or the S-class instead of the 5 series. In that class I don't think people would want it in a manual, but the 8 speed gear box hmm.... for a truck maybe but as long as I don't have to shift I don't really care how many gear it has as long as is more then 4.
I do think is a very comfy car and that car is a direct competitor of the 7 series or the S-class instead of the 5 series. In that class I don't think people would want it in a manual, but the 8 speed gear box hmm.... for a truck maybe but as long as I don't have to shift I don't really care how many gear it has as long as is more then 4.
It is categorized as mid-size car in US, so as the e60.
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Well, judging by your logic where does it put the GS350/430? I had thought that Lexus positioned the GS against the e60 and E-class. 
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Originally Posted by baadaaboo' post='364964' date='Dec 8 2006, 10:53 AM
It is categorized as mid-size car in US, so as the e60.
I think what others are saying is that the E60 is better defined as a sport-luxury automobile, and the LS is better defined as a luxury auto.
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Originally Posted by baadaaboo' post='364964' date='Dec 8 2006, 07:53 AM
It is categorized as mid-size car in US, so as the e60.
The LS is full sized. The GS is mid sized.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus_LS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full-size_car
12-08-2006, 09:13 AM
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Since you asked what is wrong... You did compare the e60 against the LS.
I don't know, but that there is a comparison.
Originally Posted by baadaaboo' post='364786' date='Dec 7 2006, 06:56 PM
I cheated on my E60 today and tested the Lexus LS460. It is a huge step up on material and design compare to LS430 but the 8 speeds is really stupid isn't it? Why would anyone need 8 speeds? Other then that, LS doesn't have manual gearbox... I still dig E60's because it's sporty + comfort + somewhat luxury. My verdict is that the LS is the closest competitor to E60 in the same class. What are your thoughts? What would you like your E60 to have which it doesn't?
12-08-2006, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by baadaaboo' post='365011' date='Dec 8 2006, 12:58 PM
enought, I had never comparing these 2 cars. I just said I tested an LS460 and it was pretty good. What is wrong?
But, in comparing the two, I think the E60 kicks ass in every performance related issue, while interior ergonomics and luxury ride go to the LS460.
Just my thoughts.