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Old 01-12-2006, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 530iii' post='223173' date='Jan 12 2006, 07:57 AM
Wait a sec... the new MB S550 has 380hp, the future E550(?) will have the same V8, now lexus with a 380hp V8?

Looks like a horsepower war in the works. I think a GS460 will look better.


Will BMW and it's N62TU 360hp V8 hold it's own?

the new e550 with the amg retuned gearbox will walk away
Old 01-15-2006, 11:22 PM
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Rumored to have the LS600H version that is supposedly out to compete with German V12 counterparts

Very interesting indeed.

I wonder how the New ES350 would look, seeing all of the models have been revamped except the ES and the SC

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Old 01-21-2006, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k6e60' post='224866' date='Jan 16 2006, 03:22 AM
Rumored to have the LS600H version that is supposedly out to compete with German V12 counterparts

Very interesting indeed.

I wonder how the New ES350 would look, seeing all of the models have been revamped except the ES and the SC

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Some PS we did. Yes, you can see the 7 influence but the Lexus new design language is called L-Finesse.

















://www.lexus.com/autoshow/?s_ocid=20437

OH YEAH!!!
Lexus revealed the all-new 2007 LS 460 and the company's first-ever long-wheelbase model, the LS 460L, today at a press conference at the 2006 North American International Auto Show (NAIAS). Seventeen years after its initial launch in Detroit, the redesigned LS now combines new levels of performance, sophistication, contemporary styling and luxury refinements.

"The Lexus LS 460 was designed to expand the definition of the full-size luxury sedan," said Jim Press, Toyota Motor Sales president and COO. "The new LS is the product of an advanced production process developed specifically for this vehicle with remarkable new levels of accuracy, refinement, precision and craftsmanship. Considering our record for quality over the last 17 years, that's quite a statement," he added.

High Output V8, World's First Eight-Speed Transmission
The LS will be powered by an all-new highly advanced 4.6-liter V8 engine that will produce approximately 380 horsepower and 370 pound-feet of torque. Combined with an eight-speed automatic transmission, a world-first, the LS 460 will travel from zero-to-sixty miles per hour in less than 5.5 seconds. With that level of performance, the new LS will achieve an estimated combined city/highway mileage in the mid-20s. Lexus is targeting an Ultra-Low Emissions Vehicle II (ULEV II) rating for the LS 460.

The new LS is built on a sophisticated platform that maintains a delicate balance between ride comfort and responsive handling. The completely redesigned multilink suspension system includes an electronic power steering system and a next-generation Vehicle Dynamics Integrated Management (VDIM) system.

VDIM is an advanced stability system that integrates and manages a new Electronically Controlled Brake (EC system, Electronic Power Steering (EPS), Vehicle Stability Control (VSC), Antilock Braking System (ABS), Brake Assist (BA), Electronic Brake-force Distribution (EBD) and engine torque via the electronically controlled throttle.

Monitoring a variety of sensors, the system is designed to anticipate the onset of a vehicle skid or slide and then help correct the situation with a combination of braking, throttle and steering control in a way that is essentially transparent to the driver. Data is gathered from more sources and processed earlier and faster than in previous designs, helping to make VDIM less obtrusive and even more effective.

First Long-Wheelbase Sedan
At nearly 203 inches, the long-wheelbase LS 460L provides an even higher level of comfort and convenience features along with some of the most advanced technology ever offered in a production automobile. The four-passenger compartment of the LS 460L transports its rear-seat passengers in an environment whose luxury features closely resemble those of a private jet.

Luxury, Redefined by Lexus
Intelligent technology and emotionally evocative design is clearly evident throughout the beautifully appointed cabin of the new LS sedans. Extra luxury and comfort touches include a heated steering wheel and seats swathed in one of four tones of semi-aniline leathers matched to one of three coordinating wood-grain trims.

Rear occupants can relax and enjoy power reclining seats equipped with power leg rests and even a massage feature. The new LS even offers body-heat sensors that help maintain the perfect temperature for all occupants. A fold-away table matched to the interior wood grain provides ample work space for rear passengers. The LS also features a nine-inch headliner-mounted rear-screen monitor along with an all-new 19-speaker Mark Levinson? audio system that provides a true theater-level entertainment experience. Additional luxury convenience features include a power rear-door closer and an automatic-powered opening/closing trunk lid.

New Lexus Design Direction
Over the last two years, Lexus has developed a new styling philosophy that it calls L-finesse. This new design language rests upon the inherent contrast between simplicity and elegance-and the beauty of achieving a balance between the two. Simplicity, in form and function, reflects styling that is uncluttered and void of extraneous elements. Lexus elegance, inside and out, avoids exaggeration by prioritizing understated luxury that is intriguing, subtle, seamless and slightly surprising.

Lexus imbued the development of the 2006 GS and IS series sport sedans with this new styling direction. Now the LS further expands the L-finesse visual philosophy, revealing a family resemblance in the new Lexus sedans-one that conveys elegance, refinement and a strong emotional appeal.
"During the next few months, we'll provide more details about the all-new Lexus LS 460 as we prepare to launch this highly anticipated sedan," said Press. "If you like the way the LS looks, you'll be even more impressed when you hear about its advanced safety and innovative technology," he added.

The 2007 Lexus LS 460 and LS 460L are targeted for sale beginning in the fall of 2006.


Preliminary Specifications
LS 460
(standard wheelbase) LS 460L
(long wheelbase)
Wheelbase (inches)
Difference: 4.8 Inches 116.9 121.7
Overall Length (inches)
Difference: 4.8 Inches 198.0 202.8
Overall Width (inches) 73.8
Overall Height (inches) 58.1
(w/coil suspension)
Engine 4.6-liter V8
Horsepower (estimated) Approximately 380 hp
Torque (estimated) Approximately 370 lb.-ft.
Drive Wheels Rear
Suspension Front & Rear Multilink Suspension
(5 links)
0-60 MPH Acceleration (mfr. results) Under 5.5 seconds
Fuel Economy* (city/highway) Combined fuel economy in the
Mid-20-mpg range
Emissions Rating** ULEV II
*Manufacturer's estimate of EPA fuel economy ratings
**Manufacturer's estimate of emissions ratings
Old 01-22-2006, 12:49 AM
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It looks nice... but I would take the 7-serie with no doubt!
Old 01-22-2006, 07:31 PM
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The back seats do look nice indeed. They ARE closing the gap slowly but surely (at least with quality and reliability).
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Okay, I have to be honest with myself. It looks ugly and out-dated. Don't understand all the hypes.
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as someone who previously owned a lexus, and in a family who all own lexus (alot of lexus) still wud choose bmw over the new ls
Old 01-28-2006, 03:26 PM
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What the hell is wrong with lexus,
cant they come up with there own exteriors.
The back side of this car is purely BMW 7 series influence.
Why cant they come up with there own unique ideas.
Oh well, I WILL NEVER BUY A LEXUS,
to me its a compromise from the originaters*BMW*
Old 01-30-2006, 12:07 PM
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So far, Lexus has:
1. No class compared to MB and BMW
2. No driving excitement like BMW

Those two are really strong factor. Reliability term is usually reserved for those who want to have prestige but don't want to spend money

Partially, I think people do buy BMW and MB for prestige, and Lexus is claiming that it has prestige. Get a life, Toyota!
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The Ottoman in the back is sort of cool. Although as a driver it would do me no good


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