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Old 11-28-2008 | 12:02 AM
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i love it... cept its 4 doors that could be a big problem for me
Old 11-28-2008 | 01:28 AM
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Top gear compared both cars and as far as the straight line acceleration goes...the c63 amg was 2-3 mph faster than the m3 in a measured distance and in the circuit the m3 outperformed the c63 in every way. whats the use of that 6Litre engine when the 4Litre M3 can outclass it in a proper race. And whats more, i personally think the M3 styling is better.
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Apple to apple, I think the C63 looks much much better than the E90 M3 (not E92 M3). But other than that, the M3 wins on most other categories from me. Especially the center console in the C63 is .
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Originally Posted by JetBlack5OC' post='733270' date='Nov 28 2008, 12:23 AM
In the end my sister got the E90 M3 with DCT. In all honesty she thought the C63 was too much car for her. She also thought the M3 look more feminine.
This is exactly the problem, but it is not that C63 is too much car. It is the engine that is too much for everything else, steering, suspension, brakes. You feel like the car can do more but you do not feel comfortable or willing to do more in C63. As to seats, my 550 sport seats kind of hug me. C63 seats are too brutal, they just limit the motion but do not hug. Maybe I just too used to BMW sport/comfort seats and not the real sport seats.
Old 11-28-2008 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by tbal' post='733389' date='Nov 28 2008, 10:02 AM
i love it... cept its 4 doors that could be a big problem for me
ye too bad its a sedan, if it were 2 doors , i'd prefer the C63 over an M3
Old 11-29-2008 | 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by KCHNG' post='733630' date='Nov 29 2008, 12:50 AM
ye too bad its a sedan, if it were 2 doors , i'd prefer the C63 over an M3

you're 15 nice....so I'm not the youngest on the forums after all
Old 11-29-2008 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='732912' date='Nov 27 2008, 03:37 PM
I take your points BetterMakeWay, but I think the bottom line is that high RPM and displacement are directly interchangeable replacements for one another as they are simply different means to the same net result. The other factor is that the M engines are actually very heavy. It often comes as a surprise to some to realize that the engine in say the M5 is actually heavier (by close to 90lbs) than the 7 liter LS7 engine in the Corvette. The reason is simple - the technology needed to allow and sustain the higher RPM in an M engine does carry a significant weight penalty. A larger engine that may be lighter, despite lower RPM, can be just as elegant a solution and just as effective as a means to the same end.

The other thing about the C63 is that, unlike most earlier AMG output, it was designed from the ground up to be the car it is rather than being a tuned version of the donor model. I really like both cars, and I think the M3 is an awesome, but the powerplant in the AMG would be the reason I'd go for the C63 over the M3. Bigger displacement doesn't necessarily carry any penalty whatsoever in terms of the size or weight of the powerplant, but without forced induction you'll never see AMG-like levels of torque in an M engine.
All maybe true and very good points, but you forget one thing - AMG is simply not as good looking as M3. In fact, I personally think it is ugly. That alone would be a reason for me to go with M3.
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I would need to test drive the C63 (and the M3s) before making a full opinion but I think I'd prefer the M3. In styling, all 3 are nice with the E92 M3 tops, with the E90 M3 too subtle, and the C63 a bit too agressive. I do like the 3 series interior but only in 2 tone with all black being too plain.

I would salvate over the C63 torque and performance but I want a well balanced car with handling feel to match. The M3 is better here. The 550i has a great balance of comfort and handling feel. I believe the M3 does too in brief rides I've had (with the adjustable suspension option).

Based on reviews, the C63 just doesn't like to be pushed on a racetrack. The M3 is the hands down winner here. Even the 550i feels at home at track speeds. Even though I want room and comfort as a daily driver, I want a car that feels at home on a twisty road and a race track.
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Originally Posted by Richard in NC' post='734152' date='Nov 29 2008, 07:35 AM
I would need to test drive the C63 (and the M3s) before making a full opinion but I think I'd prefer the M3. In styling, all 3 are nice with the E92 M3 tops, with the E90 M3 too subtle, and the C63 a bit too agressive. I do like the 3 series interior but only in 2 tone with all black being too plain.

I would salvate over the C63 torque and performance but I want a well balanced car with handling feel to match. The M3 is better here. The 550i has a great balance of comfort and handling feel. I believe the M3 does too in brief rides I've had (with the adjustable suspension option).

Based on reviews, the C63 just doesn't like to be pushed on a racetrack. The M3 is the hands down winner here. Even the 550i feels at home at track speeds. Even though I want room and comfort as a daily driver, I want a car that feels at home on a twisty road and a race track.
I know you just took your 550 to the track, and I really enjoyed your video, but I never felt the 550 was truly at home on the track. It's a little heavy, the suspension isn't quite a true sport suspension and BMW brakes in general tend not to perform too well on track. None of these matter in a sporty sedan doing its day job - where the 550 absolutely excels and is clearly the best in its class - but they do on the track. Not to say the 550 can't acquit itself well in capable hands, as you proved to be in your video, but I don't think its truly in its element. I do agree that the C63 is clearly not as capable as the M3 in this area, but most c63 reviews, by the way, do not have the car equipped with the performance pack, which upgrades the suspension and adds a limited slip differential. That should be standard in the c63 in my view, but MB sees it otherwise.

Funnily enough, I was at a track day recently and the quickest cars - by some margin - around the 1.7 mile circuit were the race prepped Miatas. Apart from driving our own cars and the track cars, we got to take hot laps with the instructors at the wheel and the Miatas were just incredible!
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