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Yet another Bluetooth thread, but I know something useful and informative will come out it for everyone.
I have a 2004 545i with NAV. Verizon CDMA is my cell phone carrier and it really isn't practical for me to change. The only Bluetooth phone they have is the MOT V710 which I cannot be sure will work with the BMW ULF. I know it has issues transferring the phone book. But I don't know of anyone that has successfully used this phone in a 2004 BMW. Will there ever be a module for the 2004 E60? Will it be just a software upgrade? With all these questions, I thought I would post the pros and cons of breaking down and popping a ridiculous amount of cash for a CPT 9000.
PROS
1. It is guaranteed to work with the Idrive. No Sync issues
2. Its a trimode phone that has pretty good reception. I use the phone to talk. I Have no desire for camera or PIM or sms or games and MP3s or whatever other features are available now.
3. It will use the Sharkfin antenna for even better reception.
4. It will charge in the car.
5. I can get it now.
CONS
1. Its not BT so less convenient to have to dock the phone. (though not as bad as what I go through now, leaving the phone on the seat next to me and inserting a wired ear piece)
2. Its an old phone
3. The belt clip sticks out an inch. (this alone may be the deciding factor) I cannot stand that.
4. I don't want to wander into meatings with a phone clipped to my waist that says BMW in big letters. What I drive is V. Personal
5. Its very expensive.
Can any one add to these lists or provide feed back on my prospects for actually using the communications part of I-drive the way it was designed without the CPT9000
I have a 2004 545i with NAV. Verizon CDMA is my cell phone carrier and it really isn't practical for me to change. The only Bluetooth phone they have is the MOT V710 which I cannot be sure will work with the BMW ULF. I know it has issues transferring the phone book. But I don't know of anyone that has successfully used this phone in a 2004 BMW. Will there ever be a module for the 2004 E60? Will it be just a software upgrade? With all these questions, I thought I would post the pros and cons of breaking down and popping a ridiculous amount of cash for a CPT 9000.
PROS
1. It is guaranteed to work with the Idrive. No Sync issues
2. Its a trimode phone that has pretty good reception. I use the phone to talk. I Have no desire for camera or PIM or sms or games and MP3s or whatever other features are available now.
3. It will use the Sharkfin antenna for even better reception.
4. It will charge in the car.
5. I can get it now.
CONS
1. Its not BT so less convenient to have to dock the phone. (though not as bad as what I go through now, leaving the phone on the seat next to me and inserting a wired ear piece)
2. Its an old phone
3. The belt clip sticks out an inch. (this alone may be the deciding factor) I cannot stand that.
4. I don't want to wander into meatings with a phone clipped to my waist that says BMW in big letters. What I drive is V. Personal
5. Its very expensive.
Can any one add to these lists or provide feed back on my prospects for actually using the communications part of I-drive the way it was designed without the CPT9000
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Hormazd:
I have the exact situation and bought the 710. It's an incredible phone, completely voice activated and has an incredible wireless headset available. With it, I'm not as concerned about a retro kit and would never spend the bucks on the ridiculously expensive and "old-tech" CPT.
I've actually had the phone cradle removed from the center armrest and it opens up a huge amount of space there. I leave the 710 in the door map pocket and wear the wireless headset. I can dial any number simple by speaking a name or set of numbers into the headset. So I don't miss having the phonebook downloaded into the car. Since I only use the voice commands and never use the 710's phonebook, I don't think I'd use the car's phonebook with this setup even if it was available.
The only thing that I don't have is the ability to charge the phone while in the cradle (no issue for me) or the ability to have the radio mute when a call is coming in (certainly a "nice to have"). But, all in all, the 710 with the wireless headset is a great solution.
I have the exact situation and bought the 710. It's an incredible phone, completely voice activated and has an incredible wireless headset available. With it, I'm not as concerned about a retro kit and would never spend the bucks on the ridiculously expensive and "old-tech" CPT.
I've actually had the phone cradle removed from the center armrest and it opens up a huge amount of space there. I leave the 710 in the door map pocket and wear the wireless headset. I can dial any number simple by speaking a name or set of numbers into the headset. So I don't miss having the phonebook downloaded into the car. Since I only use the voice commands and never use the 710's phonebook, I don't think I'd use the car's phonebook with this setup even if it was available.
The only thing that I don't have is the ability to charge the phone while in the cradle (no issue for me) or the ability to have the radio mute when a call is coming in (certainly a "nice to have"). But, all in all, the 710 with the wireless headset is a great solution.
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But guys, the big question for us with US my2004 models is whether there will be a BT retrofit available at all for us. So far, BMWNA has said they don't know. Have you heard otherwise?
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Originally Posted by gdavis' date='Oct 16 2004, 10:08 AM
But guys, the big question for us with US my2004 models is whether there will be a BT retrofit available at all for us. So far, BMWNA has said they don't know. Have you heard otherwise?
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My Ride: 11 550i Sophisto Gray/Oyster Black/Anthracite, Sprt Trns, DHP, IAS, SP, PP1, PP2, CWP, HUD, DAP, AVSP, SF RS, CA, ACC - Euro Del
Bluettoth Retrofit for the 04 e60 Rumor from BMW Corprorate
My sales rep called a good friend with BMW NA Corporate. He spent two days tracking down the status of the Bluetooth Retrofit for the 04 e 60. They are working on it. The requests for it help to speed them along because it equates to demand. So please request Bluetooth Retrofit Kit through your dealer. Unfortunately no projected date, of when this will be out, was given by the BMW contact.
My sales rep called a good friend with BMW NA Corporate. He spent two days tracking down the status of the Bluetooth Retrofit for the 04 e 60. They are working on it. The requests for it help to speed them along because it equates to demand. So please request Bluetooth Retrofit Kit through your dealer. Unfortunately no projected date, of when this will be out, was given by the BMW contact.
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Originally Posted by pharding' date='Oct 16 2004, 10:17 AM
Bluettoth Retrofit for the 04 e60 Rumor from BMW Corprorate
My sales rep called a good friend with BMW NA Corporate.? He spent two days tracking down the status of the Bluetooth Retrofit for the 04 e 60.? They are working on it.? The requests for it help to speed them along because it equates to demand.? So please request Bluetooth Retrofit Kit through your dealer.? Unfortunately no projected date, of when this will be out, was given by the BMW contact.
My sales rep called a good friend with BMW NA Corporate.? He spent two days tracking down the status of the Bluetooth Retrofit for the 04 e 60.? They are working on it.? The requests for it help to speed them along because it equates to demand.? So please request Bluetooth Retrofit Kit through your dealer.? Unfortunately no projected date, of when this will be out, was given by the BMW contact.
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Thanks for sharing the rumor - but if BT is operable for MY2004, how hard can it be to roll out the retrofit?
I have question for Hinckley. Does the V710 wireless headset combo allow you to voice navigate through tekephone keypad menus? i.e. acess voice mail without having to pick up the handset and key in numbers.
I have th V600 (Cingular) and am considering wireless headset route ($80) vs. ($????) for the retrokit if and when it arrives.
Still bitter over no-BT.
Cheers and TIA.
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Originally Posted by Buster' date='Oct 16 2004, 11:40 AM
I have question for Hinckley.? Does the V710 wireless headset combo allow you to voice navigate through tekephone keypad menus?? i.e. acess voice mail without having to pick up the handset and key in numbers.
I have th V600 (Cingular) and am considering wireless headset route ($80) vs.? ($????) for the retrokit if and when it arrives.?
Still bitter over no-BT.
Cheers and TIA.
I have th V600 (Cingular) and am considering wireless headset route ($80) vs.? ($????) for the retrokit if and when it arrives.?
Still bitter over no-BT.
Cheers and TIA.
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You can pre-program commands to get you thru phone menus, but unfortunately, you cannot use the headset to, for example, delete a voice mail message and move on the next one. It is a downside to the setup.
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Originally Posted by Hormazd' date='Oct 16 2004, 02:33 AM
... Verizon CDMA is my cell phone carrier and it really isn't practical for me to change.? The only Bluetooth phone they have is the MOT V710 which I cannot be sure will work with the BMW ULF.?
PROS
1. It is guaranteed to work with the Idrive. No Sync issues
2. Its a trimode phone that has pretty good reception.? I use the phone to talk.? I Have no desire for camera or PIM or sms or games and MP3s or whatever other features are available now.
3. It will use the Sharkfin antenna for even better reception.
4. It will charge in the car.
5. I can get it now.
CONS
1. Its not BT so less convenient to have to dock the phone.? (though not as bad as what I go through now,? leaving the phone on the seat next to me and inserting a wired ear piece)
2. Its an old phone
3. The belt clip sticks out an inch.? (this alone may be the deciding factor)? I cannot stand that.
4. I don't want to wander into meatings with a phone clipped to my waist that says BMW in big letters.? What I drive is V. Personal
5. Its very expensive.
Can any one add to these lists or provide feed back on my prospects for actually using the communications part of I-drive the way it was designed without the CPT9000
PROS
1. It is guaranteed to work with the Idrive. No Sync issues
2. Its a trimode phone that has pretty good reception.? I use the phone to talk.? I Have no desire for camera or PIM or sms or games and MP3s or whatever other features are available now.
3. It will use the Sharkfin antenna for even better reception.
4. It will charge in the car.
5. I can get it now.
CONS
1. Its not BT so less convenient to have to dock the phone.? (though not as bad as what I go through now,? leaving the phone on the seat next to me and inserting a wired ear piece)
2. Its an old phone
3. The belt clip sticks out an inch.? (this alone may be the deciding factor)? I cannot stand that.
4. I don't want to wander into meatings with a phone clipped to my waist that says BMW in big letters.? What I drive is V. Personal
5. Its very expensive.
Can any one add to these lists or provide feed back on my prospects for actually using the communications part of I-drive the way it was designed without the CPT9000
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I also do not like wearing a headset while driving, it bothers me, and I like the radio to mute when a call comes in so I can hear it (which by the way is another PRO). I wound up using the headset for about 3 weeks after I bought it and it was a bother to me. Also if you activate the bluetooth availability on my phone at least, the battery would drain in like 3 hours as compared to 7 days when used for about 15 minutes per day.
As far as docking it, you have to put your phone somewhere, weather it is in your pocket, in the door pockets, briefcase, seat beside you, so there is no diffeence to me to have to put it in there. It wont move all over the car when yuo go around turns and it will always be charged for you.
I also think that the added reception from the shark fin is a BIG PRO.
I agree about the clip. They do sell an NFL clip on the Motorola site that does not stick out, I don't like it but there must be a clip like that made by another manufaturer.
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Verizon's moto v710 will not work in any BMW (or any other car) with Bluetooth functionality. Go to:
http://www.nuclearelephant.com/papers/v710.html
to understand why. As a business decision Verizon has disabled the bluetooth feature to sync/use in cars. The phone made by Motorola can do it, but Verizon doesn't want you to. They may upgrade software at some point in the future but no clear plan at this time.
http://www.nuclearelephant.com/papers/v710.html
to understand why. As a business decision Verizon has disabled the bluetooth feature to sync/use in cars. The phone made by Motorola can do it, but Verizon doesn't want you to. They may upgrade software at some point in the future but no clear plan at this time.
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Originally Posted by pubsmeister' date='Oct 16 2004, 11:38 AM
Verizon's moto v710 will not work in any BMW (or any other car) with Bluetooth functionality. Go to:
http://www.nuclearelephant.com/papers/v710.html
to understand why. As a business decision Verizon has disabled the bluetooth feature to sync/use in cars. The phone made by Motorola can do it, but Verizon doesn't want you to. They may upgrade software at some point in the future but no clear plan at this time.
http://www.nuclearelephant.com/papers/v710.html
to understand why. As a business decision Verizon has disabled the bluetooth feature to sync/use in cars. The phone made by Motorola can do it, but Verizon doesn't want you to. They may upgrade software at some point in the future but no clear plan at this time.
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Skipper, do you have the CPT? It sounds like thats the sure way to go. I have a three year lease on this car. My next one will probably be a 550 and all these bugs will be worked out by then